Category Archives: Religion

Mosque Brouhaha

by Mandi

Many people are up in arms about the proposed mosque built near Ground Zero in Lower Manhattan.

And it’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.

Luckily, there are patient and eloquent people out there who can say nice things and make the point without resorting to the immature name-calling I am likely to do.

From NYC Mayor Bloomberg’s speech earlier this week: (Emphasis mine)

“Of all our precious freedoms, the most important may be the freedom to worship as we wish. And it is a freedom that, even here in a City that is rooted in Dutch tolerance, was hard-won over many years. In the mid-1650s, the small Jewish community living in Lower Manhattan petitioned Dutch Governor Peter Stuyvesant for the right to build a synagogue – and they were turned down.

“In 1657, when Stuyvesant also prohibited Quakers from holding meetings, a group of non-Quakers in Queens signed the Flushing Remonstrance, a petition in defense of the right of Quakers and others to freely practice their religion. It was perhaps the first formal, political petition for religious freedom in the American colonies – and the organizer was thrown in jail and then banished from New Amsterdam.

“In the 1700s, even as religious freedom took hold in America, Catholics in New York were effectively prohibited from practicing their religion – and priests could be arrested. Largely as a result, the first Catholic parish in New York City was not established until the 1780’s – St. Peter’s on Barclay Street, which still stands just one block north of the World Trade Center site and one block south of the proposed mosque and community center.

“This morning, the City’s Landmark Preservation Commission unanimously voted not to extend landmark status to the building on Park Place where the mosque and community center are planned. The decision was based solely on the fact that there was little architectural significance to the building. But with or without landmark designation, there is nothing in the law that would prevent the owners from opening a mosque within the existing building. The simple fact is this building is private property, and the owners have a right to use the building as a house of worship.

“The government has no right whatsoever to deny that right – and if it were tried, the courts would almost certainly strike it down as a violation of the U.S. Constitution. Whatever you may think of the proposed mosque and community center, lost in the heat of the debate has been a basic question – should government attempt to deny private citizens the right to build a house of worship on private property based on their particular religion? That may happen in other countries, but we should never allow it to happen here. This nation was founded on the principle that the government must never choose between religions, or favor one over another.

“The World Trade Center Site will forever hold a special place in our City, in our hearts. But we would be untrue to the best part of ourselves – and who we are as New Yorkers and Americans – if we said ‘no’ to a mosque in Lower Manhattan.

“Let us not forget that Muslims were among those murdered on 9/11 and that our Muslim neighbors grieved with us as New Yorkers and as Americans. We would betray our values – and play into our enemies’ hands – if we were to treat Muslims differently than anyone else. In fact, to cave to popular sentiment would be to hand a victory to the terrorists – and we should not stand for that.

“For that reason, I believe that this is an important test of the separation of church and state as we may see in our lifetime – as important a test – and it is critically important that we get it right.

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It’s About Love and Humanity – Not Politics or Religion

by Mandi

I’ve recently realized that I am an inherently selfish person. I have to make an effort on many occasions to overcome my own limitations and recognize that the world and its inhabitants do not revolve around me and my opinions, wants, or needs.

Point being, I make that effort. I don’t always succeed, and sometimes I do it a little begrudgingly, but I recognize the worth and value of those around me and offer what I can to hold them in the esteem worthy of a fellow human being.

The big thing in the news right now is the overturning of Proposition 8 in California – the law that took away the right for same-sex couples to marry in 2008 after they had already been given that right.

Yesterday, Federal Judge Vaughn Walker made a historic decision when he overturned Prop 8. (Emphasis mine)

The case was brought by two gay couples who said California’s Proposition 8, which passed in 2008 with 52 percent of the vote, discriminated against them by prohibiting same-sex marriage and relegating them to domestic partnerships. The judge easily dismissed the idea that discrimination is permissible if a majority of voters approve it; the referendum’s outcome was “irrelevant,” he said, quoting a 1943 case, because “fundamental rights may not be submitted to a vote.”

He then dismantled, brick by crumbling brick, the weak case made by supporters of Proposition 8 and laid out the facts presented in testimony. The two witnesses called by the supporters (the state having bowed out of the case) had no credibility, he said, and presented no evidence that same-sex marriage harmed society or the institution of marriage.

Same-sex couples are identical to opposite-sex couples in their ability to form successful marital unions and raise children, he said. Though procreation is not a necessary goal of marriage, children of same-sex couples will benefit from the stability provided by marriage, as will the state and society. Domestic partnerships confer a second-class status. The discrimination inherent in that second-class status is harmful to gay men and lesbians. These findings of fact will be highly significant as the case winds its way through years of appeals.

One of Judge Walker’s strongest points was that traditional notions of marriage can no longer be used to justify discrimination, just as gender roles in opposite-sex marriage have changed dramatically over the decades. All marriages are now unions of equals, he wrote, and there is no reason to restrict that equality to straight couples. The exclusion of same-sex couples from marriage “exists as an artifact of a time when the genders were seen as having distinct roles in society and in marriage,” he wrote. “That time has passed.”

To justify the proposition’s inherent discrimination on the basis of sex and sexual orientation, he wrote, there would have to be a compelling state interest in banning same-sex marriage. But no rational basis for discrimination was presented at the two-and-a-half-week trial in January, he said. The real reason for Proposition 8, he wrote, is a moral view “that there is something wrong with same-sex couples,” and that is not a permissible reason for legislation.

“Moral disapproval alone,” he wrote, in words that could someday help change history, “is an improper basis on which to deny rights to gay men and women.”

I know there are many many people out there who believe that morality alone is very much a reasonable basis to deny rights. To those people I ask: Who decides what is and isn’t moral?

There are men and women in Utah who believe it is perfectly moral to have multiple wives. Should we allow that view of morality be the line that dictates our legal system?

What about the men and women who believe it is perfectly moral to engage in negotiated infidelity? Should that view of morality be the line that dictates our legal system and our rights?

Judge Walker is absolutely right: Moral disapproval alone is an improper basis on which to deny rights to gay men and women. (I would add to any men and women)

Being gay does not make someone less American or less of a human.

The Friendly Atheist posted a video today that I hadn’t seen before, but I’m so glad he did. It is a clip of Keith Olbermann from right after Prop 8 was voted in:

… With so much hate in the world, with so much meaningless division, and people pitted against people for no good reason, this is what your religion tells you to do? With your experience of life and this world and all its sadnesses, this is what your conscience tells you to do?

With your knowledge that life, with endless vigor, seems to tilt the playing field on which we all live, in favor of unhappiness and hate… this is what your heart tells you to do? You want to sanctify marriage? You want to honor your God and the universal love you believe he represents? Then Spread happiness — this tiny, symbolic, semantical grain of happiness — share it with all those who seek it. Quote me anything from your religious leader or book of choice telling you to stand against this. And then tell me how you can believe both that statement and another statement, another one which reads only “do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”

The full transcript is here.

How wonderful that the idiotic ballot measure was overturned yesterday.

How could you read the reactions to Judge Vaughn Walker‘s ruling and not be overjoyed?

You’d have to be heartless.


Mosques in America

by Mandi

I am loving this clip from The Daily Show:

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It’s been a long time since I’ve watched Jon Stewart. And, at least in this case, he’s the only one saying what needs to be said.

He’s the only one drawing the necessary comparisons and standing up for those who need a voice.

It’s great.

The Friendly Atheist also tells about a Christian’s response to the clip and the situation at large.

Today, I read a response to this story from Rachel Held Evans — she’s a Christian who recently published the book Evolving in Monkey Town, about her upbringing in Dayton, Tennessee, home of the Scopes Monkey Trial.

She saw that clip and this ABC News report and wrote the following (emphasis hers):

But what brought me to tears was the fact that, according to the report, there were “no public comments in favor of the mosque.”

None.

No one spoke up for their neighbors.

No one stood up for the oppressed.

No one was willing to face the inevitable disdain that would have followed had they done the right thing.

The Muslim community, however, often suffers in silence. And around here, I get the sense that the hatred runs deep. It amazes me that the same folks who so loudly champion their rights to guns and free speech guaranteed by the constitution seem to think freedom of religion is negotiable.

As Christians, we must speak up, for it is no coincidence that when Jesus was asked, Who is my neighbor? he chose the most hated religious-ethnic group of the day — Samaritans — to tell his story.

Yes! That’s the type of response more Christians ought to be giving. If they’re going to pick and choose which parts of the Bible to follow, standing up for minorities is a good lesson to get behind. Many pastors talk about this in church, but how rarely do we see Christians actually following through on it? Certainly not the ones opposing the mosque.

(For what it’s worth, speaking up for the rights of others isn’t limited to Christians — it’s just a decent, human thing to do and atheists do it all the time — but if her faith makes her do something positive, fantastic.)

Love. It.


KKK and WBC

by Mandi

I’m actually surprised and slightly baffled at this news.

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Quite frankly, if the KKK doesn’t approve of your hate crimes then you know there’s something beyond wrong.


Christianity on Joy Behar’s Show

by Mandi

This is interesting to me. I look forward to seeing Collision.


Funerals and Christianity

by Mandi

Let me go ahead and apologize ahead of time because this post is going to cover two polar opposite thoughts and feelings I had during a funeral today.

First, the irony. My great uncle died on Saturday. This was a man I’d seen only once or twice in the last 20 years – I really attended the funeral to show support for my grandaddy, as this was his last surviving sibling. One thing that struck me during the eulogy was how often the pastor referred to Uncle Darrel as a man who knew what he believed and was unwavering. He left behind a legacy because everyone knew who he was and what he stood for. In this case, it was Christ. Uncle Darrel was a man who had deep faith in Jesus Christ. As I was listening to the pastor speak about how you couldn’t change Uncle Darrel’s mind once he held a belief, I was struck by the thought that I want to leave that kind of legacy behind. I want to be known as a woman who held firm to her convictions. I call this ironic because I have been anything but unwavering these last few years (just click that link up there “Face the Strange” to see what I mean).  This is beginning to change, I think. A few things have happened this past week to really solidify my stance against Christianity. But I don’t want to be known as an atheist or an agnostic.  I don’t want my religion (or lack thereof) to define who I am. I want my actions to define who I am. And I hope that someday, people can look back on the life I lived and celebrate.

Now, for something completely different.

I hate Christian funerals. I really and truly despise them. Yes, there was a lot of good said at the funeral. He was a good man who would do near about anything you asked of him. But instead of using this time to celebrate a man’s life, people took the opportunity to use fear and bribery to try and convert everyone.

I’m accustomed to Southern conservative Christian funerals being a “salvation” sermon instead of a standard eulogy, but I guess I’d never really paid attention to it before because I was so involved. Basically, the message boiled down to “I know he’s in heaven; if you want to see him again, get saved!”

There was also your standard variation of hell sucks, if you want to avoid it get saved!

Where, in either of these two examples, is there a motive of becoming a Christian because you believe in the saving power of Jesus Christ?

According to these people, if your motive isn’t right then you’re not right. Yet… they’re bribing people and fearmongering to convert. What’s wrong with this picture?

At the risk of offending half the people who read this (not that I haven’t already): it’s a cult. They get you in however they can, and then they guilt you into acting on their beliefs.

And all of this is happening while you’re supposed to be celebrating the life of a great man who was deeply loved by his friends, family, and community.

It really disgusts me.


Child Witches

by Mandi

Here’s another reason I no longer believe in Christianity.

The 9-year-old boy lay on a bloodstained hospital sheet crawling with ants, staring blindly at the wall.His family pastor had accused him of being a witch, and his father then tried to force acid down his throat as an exorcism. It spilled as he struggled, burning away his face and eyes. The emaciated boy barely had strength left to whisper the name of the church that had denounced him — Mount Zion Lighthouse.

A month later, he died.

Nwanaokwo Edet was one of an increasing number of children in Africa accused of witchcraft by pastors and then tortured or killed, often by family members. Pastors were involved in half of 200 cases of “witch children” reviewed by the AP, and 13 churches were named in the case files.

Some of the churches involved are renegade local branches of international franchises. Their parishioners take literally the Biblical exhortation, “Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.”

“It is an outrage what they are allowing to take place in the name of Christianity,” said Gary Foxcroft, head of nonprofit Stepping Stones Nigeria.

This frustrates me to no end. There really are no words to describe how absolutely heinous this is.

 


Sell the Vatican

by Mandi

I’m kind of digging Sarah Silverman’s new thing…


Marital Rape

by Mandi

The Bahamian Government is planning to outlaw marital rape.

The present law in the Bahamas defines rape as an act of any person not under 14 years of age having sex with another person who is not his spouse without the consent of that other person; without consent that had been extorted by threats or fear of bodily harm; with consent obtained by impersonating the spouse of the other person; or with consent obtained by false and fraudulent representations as to the nature and quality of the act. 

The proposed amendment would omit the words “who is not his spouse” in essence making it illegal for any person to have sex with another without consent – regardless if they are married or not. 

Under the current law, rape can only occur in a marriage if the couple is legally separated.

Marital rape was outlawed in the United States in 1976. The penalty for raping your spouse is typically more leniant than for raping a stranger, but it is still considered rape.

The issue has sparked a national debate in the Bahamas, which baffles me. It turns out that there are actually people out there who believe that you can’t rape your spouse. In both of the articles I linked above, the opposing opinions quoted are all from people of faith, and they use their faith to justify this belief (bold emphasis mine).

Controversial pastor Cedric Moss has vocally opposed the legislation claiming the amendment would create a “society of rapists.” Citing the “word of God”, Mr Moss argued that rape cannot be committed in marriage because the couple, gave each other authority over the other’s body and agreed to open-ended sexual consent in the marriage contract.

“It is ridiculous for them to try to make that a law, because I don’t think a man can rape his own wife. After two people get married, the Bible says that they become one – one flesh. How is it possible to rape what is yours?” asked Mr. Sutherland.

Elvis Russell told the Journal that he does not support the bill either because there is no such thing as rape within a marriage.

Even if a woman says no to her husband it still can’t be considered rape because she is his wife. He already paid his dues at the church and she already said ‘I do,’ so from then on, even if [a man] forces sex on his wife, it isn’t rape,” he said.

Deanne Sweeting said that she strongly disagrees with the bill and does not understand why so many women are supporting it.

“I disagree with the bill because I disagree that a man can rape his wife. The Bible tells me that a man’s body is his wife’s and her body is his. How could he rape her?” asked Ms. Sweeting.

Coralee Clarke told the Journal that although she is not married, she believes that a man is entitled to sex from his wife whenever he feels like it.

“If a man wants to have sex with his wife he is supposed to [have sex with her] regardless of what the circumstances [are]. I don’t see why he should be charged with raping his own wife, she is never supposed to say no,” said Ms. Clarke.

“If I were married and my husband wanted to have sex with me I wouldn’t stop him, [because] I’m not supposed to, even if I was tired or feeling sick, I wouldn’t tell him no.”

This makes me sick. These people are so blinded by their faith that they can’t tell right from wrong. And that is not a sentence I thought I’d ever type. One of the reasons I feel so strongly about this issue, other than being a woman who expects my no to mean no, is that I have a friend who has seen this happen. His best friend is married to an abusive man. She is on some sort of medication that pretty much makes her pass out at night, and it turns out that her husband has his way with her while she’s passed out. And he’s bragged about this to his friends.

And that makes me sick to my stomach.

Sex is supposed to an incredible thing. It’s supposed to enjoyed. It’s supposed to be consentual. It’s supposed to be mutual. Married or not married, any sex that is forced, is now, has always been, and will always be rape. And rape is illegal.

But this isn’t just about rape. It’s about how men (and society) treat women. The fact that there are people who say that a man cannot rape his wife because, even if he forces her to have sex, he owns her shows that there is a giant problem with women’s rights. I do understand that these opinions that have been expressed didn’t come from American culture. But they did come from a Christian culture. And I don’t see it at all as a far leap from Christians in the Bahamas reacting this way to Christians in America reacting this way.

Because I’ve been told by a pastor that a woman should never deny her husband sex. And it’s exactly that kind of attitude that leads to marital rape. It makes me wonder how many wives are raped by their husbands every day, but they never tell anyone because they’ve been told it’s their duty as good Christian wives to never deny their husbands. How many women out there have never experienced the joy of sex because all they’ve ever known is marital rape?

Melodramatic? Maybe. But I think it exists more than anyone thinks  in more conservative and fundamental communities.

So back to the law. It’s a good law. But the only way it’ll be a great law (in any country, including the US), is if women are educated about marital rape and taught that it’s okay to say no,  it’s never okay for your husband to force you, and if he does it’s okay to tell somebody.


Well done, Durham

by Mandi

I haven’t lived in Durham, NC in nearly 4 years but I still consider it my home. It’s definitely my hometown.

And on Monday night, the Durham city council made me proud. They unanimously passed a resolution supporting civil marriage equality for same-sex couples.

Now, in reality, this resolution does nothing; it’s a state law that bans same-sex marriage. But the city has taken a stand and declared that they support gay marriage.

Thank you, Mayor Bill Bell and council members.

What really gets to me are the people who oppose legalizing gay marriage. I’d never put much thought into it before. As a Christian, I knew that homosexuality was “wrong” but I still never thought that it should be illegal. And it baffles me that anyone would ever want it to be.

Let’s take a look at some of these:

Furthermore, North Carolina is considered one of the states in the “Bible-Belt.”  There are quite a few of us who believe in the inerrancy of the Word of God, and thus are very much opposed to the concept of same-sex unions.  The Word of God is very clear.  Same sex unions are despicable to God. If you doubt me, read your Bible.

And what’s your point? If God tells you not to marry someone of the same sex, don’t marry someone of the same sex. Don’t try and stop someone else from doing something just because you’re too closed minded to see past the end of your nose. I know of churches who believe that smoking cigarettes, drinking alcohol, and going to the movies are despicable to God, but I don’t see anybody trying to make those things illegal.

To Ms. Cole-McFadden specifically,

On your Durham City Council webpage you list your membership in the West Durham Baptist Church.  You even mention that you are the Sunday School Superintendent.  My question to you is simple: How can you instruct Sunday School, or guide Sunday School instructors, if you, yourself have not read the Word of God?  If you have read the Word of God, then I trust that you voted against this resolution?  For surely, you would not argue with God? (“Woe to him who quarrels with his Maker” Isaiah 45:9)  But I know that the council voted unanimously in favor of this resolution and as a result I question the sincerity of your faith.

This just makes me unbelievably angry. Who are you to question anybody’s faith? Isn’t that your God’s job, not yours?

What does faith have to do with legislation? I understand that, as Christians, you want your lifestyles to be moral and clean and upright, and that you oppose things that you perceive to go against your faith and ideals. I really do understand that. But why can’t you live your life the way you think you should live it without trying to force your faith into legislation that dictates the way everybody should behave?

The way I see it, the Durham city council has their eyes open. They see equality in all people, and are trying to give equal privilege to all people, regardless of race, religion, ethnicity, or sexual orientation.

If only the state (hell, the country) would go so far.


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