Monthly Archives: June 2007

Mark Driscoll Keeps At It

I’ve never really posted anything (positive or negative) about Mark Driscoll, despite his fairly chauvinist reputation among evangelicals. But then I saw this video, and I can’t hold back. I’m angry! As a woman, I’m angry. As a Christian, I’m angry.



He actually goes so far to say, “60% of all Christians today are female, and I’m glad that the ladies love Jesus, but if you want to win a war, you’ve got to get the men.”

Are you kidding me? He just discounted women as Christians. I am so not okay with that.

Beautiful New Look

I’m sure that by now you’ve all noticed my fantastic new look (if you don’t like it, keep it to yourself :) ).

I have Revka, of RS Designs, to thank for the great colors! And working with Revka was great. She asked what I wanted and was able to take my vision and turn it into reality. She started with creating a brand new header for me…and I swear she must have made 6 or 7 for me to choose from (after giving me a questionaire asking what I was looking for). She took the elements I liked and combined them to come up with the winner, the one you see above. And from there she took the color scheme and applied it all over the template so it all meshes. And I love the result.

I definitely recommend Revka if you’re looking to change up the look of  your blog or website!

Thanks again, dear Revka, for the beautiful work you did.

Healing my Soul

The more I read in Velvet Elvis, the more I see of myself:

I just couldn’t do it anymore.

People were asking me to write articles and books on how to grow a progressive young church, and I wasn’t even sure I was a Christian anymore.

I didn’t even know if I wanted to be a Christian anymore.

What do you do when you can hear the room filling up with thousands of people who are expecting you to give them words from God, and you don’t even know if it is true anymore?

I was exhausted.

I was burned out.

I was full of doubt.

I was done.

I had nothing more to say.

So I may not be a superpastor people want writing books…but the state of our minds was the same.

I was done.

But Bell began to learn something that I’m just now beginning to learn and figure out how to apply to my life despite years of bad Christian habits:

The point of the cross isn’t forgiveness. Forgiveness leads to something much bigger: restoration. God isn’t just interested in the covering over of our sins; God wants to make us into the people we were originally created to be. It is not just the removal of what’s being held against us; it is God pulling us into the people he originally had in mind when he made us. This restoration is why Jesus always orients his message around becoming the kind of people who are generous and loving and compassionate. The goal here isn’t simply to not sin. Our purpose is to increase the shalom in this world, which is why approaches to the Christian faith that deal solely with not sinning always fail. They aim at the wrong thing. It is not about what you don’t do. The point is becoming more and more the kind of people God had in mind when we were first created.

That kind of flies in the face of fundamentalism, doesn’t it?

It is one thing to be saved. To believe in Jesus. It is another thing to be healed. It is possible to be saved and miserable. It is possible to be saved and not be a healthy, whole, life-giving person. It is possible for the cross to have done something for a person but not in them.

And that brings me to what I have to do in my own life. It won’t be easy, but I think I can do it.

I meet so many people who have superwhatever rattling around in their head. They have this person they are convinced they are supposed to be, and their superwhatever is killing them. They have this image they picked up over the years of how they are supposed to look and act and work and play and talk, and it’s like a voice that never stops shouting in their ear.

And the only way to not be killed by it is to shoot first.

Yes, that is what I meant to write.

You have to kill your superwhatever.

And you have to do it right now.

Because your superwhatever will rob you of today and tomorrow and the next day until you take it out back and end its life.

Go do it.

I have to kill my superMandiKaye. She exists, and I hate that she exists. Say goodbye to her now, because she won’t be around anymore.

I’m going to let Jesus heal my soul.

A Simpler Way

Most of you know that I’m just coming out of the throes of a crisis of faith (short lived as it was). One of the things I realized during this time was that it wasn’t God I was trying to turn my back on (though it seemed it would be much simpler to do so)–it was the hypocrisy of the Christian church. It drives me nuts to see legalism (doctrine elevated to a status that takes the focus off God and places it on the doctrine) in the church. It drives me nuts to see Christianity boiled down to a three step formula – “Read this verse, say this prayer, go to my church and you’ll be saved.” There’s nothing formulaic about God. Read the Bible and find a formula for happy life and salvation - I dare you. It won’t happen. There are no formulas in relationships.

So now I’m on a journey to be like Jesus – not like Christians. Remember, Christian is a great noun but a lousy adjective. It’s going to be tough for a people pleaser like me to make this journey because it’s going to look radically different than what most people associate with the word Christian – but ultimately, that doesn’t matter because my final authority is God and no one else (if I say that enough times, I have to start believing it deep down, right?).

So what does this look like for me? It looks like forming and living in a community very similar to Shane Claiborne’s “new monastic” community The Simple Way (you won’t get too much info from that link because they recently experienced a horrific fire and are focusing their efforts on rebuilding and funding the rebuilding effort). There are several of these communities popping up around the country (there’s even one in my hometown that I didn’t know existed - funny story…the web filter at work classifies the site as “occult”).

Busted Halo describes The Simple Way like this:

The Simple Way is an alternative Christian community with six semi-permanent members and a few dozen others who have passed through its doors. Members live and pray together, dedicate themselves to work with their poor neighbors, contribute part of their outside incomes (everybody has a part-time regular job) to maintain the house and generally aspire to upset the established order through acts of radical Christian love. Those acts of Christian resistance have included running an art camp for their inner city neighbors, opening the door to prostitutes in crisis and visiting Iraq to perform circuses for war-battered kids. These acts are equal parts punk rock and monastic.

[..]

What distinguishes the house from other locales where cool, politically minded denizens split the rent is that these young adults gather expressly to share in each others’ religious lives and to follow Christ together. While members do not take vows and can stay for as long as forever or as little as a month, the best way to understand The Simple Way may be as a religious order, albeit an anarchist one with no Mother Superior and no dress code (although dread locks and piercings seem to be de rigeur). Living in community means conscientious dedication to each other’s spiritual journey.

[..]

The Simple Way is part of a growing movement of mostly young evangelical Christians and Catholics who are dedicated to taking the Gospel—not Genesis— literally. The group makes common cause with Catholic Worker houses of hospitality and dozens of other alternative communities that operate below the radar of American Christianity.

It’s something that looks and feels very different from traditional Christianity. This is what Rob Bell calls “Repainting the Christian Faith.”

For thousands of years followers of Jesus, like artists, have understood that we have to keep going, exploring what it means to live in harmony with God and each other. The Christian faith tradition is filled with change and growth and transformation. Jesus took part in this process by calling people to rethink faith and the Bible and hope and love and everything else, and by inviting them into the endless process of working out how to live as God created us to live.

The challenge for Christians then is to live with great passion and conviction, remaining open and flexible, aware that this life is not the last painting.

Get ready, because I’m going to start repainting what I know and do regarding Christianity. But I can’t do it alone. This vision of community kind of requires other people to be involved (you can’t have a community of one!). I have 1 friend who is interested in helping, but she is married and can’t be completely involved. Here’s what I need:

  1. Prayer partners. Without prayer, this vision will never get off the ground.
  2. Physical partners – people who have this same kind of vision and want to see this kind of community take off in Denver, CO.
  3. Professionals who may not want to live in this kind of community, but have the knowledge of how to get a non-profit going and would lend their brains to the cause to get us up and running (I’ve been researching laws and how to incorporate and it just makes my head swim).
  4. A name. I was hoping to use “The Gathering Place” in either Hebrew, Greek, or Latin, but I don’t like the way any of them sound. And there’s already a women’s day shelter in Denver called “The Gathering Place”.
  5. A neglected or abandoned house that we can take over and move into in a neighborhood that will benefit from this type of community.

I’m not asking for much, am I? :) Even if you only have advice, I’ll gladly take that too.

Trackposted to Perri Nelson’s Website, third world county, The Random Yak, Woman Honor Thyself, Right Truth, Pirate’s Cove, The Pink Flamingo, Dumb Ox Daily News, Conservative Cat, and Church and State, thanks to Linkfest Haven Deluxe.

It’s Coming and I Can’t Wait!

I’m fairly twitterpated in excitement over the final installment of Harry Potter (and of course the fifth movie which comes out 2 weeks from today).

Christianity Today has a pre-review review of the novel, in which Alan Jacobs speculates what will happen in the final installment. Will his predictions be correct? I can’t wait to find out!

Spice Around the World

Oh my goodness… the Spice Girls have reunited for an 11 city world tour!

Is this one of the “signs of the times”?

No Condemnation

I want to share with you the words of a dear dear friend who wrote to me in response to all of my turmoil from this past week. As I read her words today, my eyes welled up and I nearly broke down in my office. To feel such compassion and love from a single person is…overwhelming.

What, indeed, happened to Mandi Kaye?

Well, my sweet girl, I came in on the saga Monday afternoon.  As I opened your site, I realized it had an all-new look since my last visit (I’m a once every 7-12 days blogger-checker) and thought, ‘how beautiful!  I must tell Amanda how I love it.  And then I started reading.

Now – don’t think this is going to be a bunch of condemnation because if it starts to feel like that – delete it immediately.  I am asking the Holy Spirit to reveal to you the love with which I am writing this, but I am serious when I say: no condemnation.  None.  I hope you’ll resist enemy accusations as you read it, but if it doesn’t bring you life: STOP!  DELETE!

I read.  I went back to last Wednesday and read all posts and comments.

After I read, I bawled my eyes out. Wow, my sweet,  I wanted to comment, but I knew nothing I could say (or rather would want to say) would be from reason or from the head and I feared the heart stuff would just sound stupid and cause you to be angry (fear of man person here, too!).  After Bible College, where constant debate and arguments about meanings and phrasings and doctrines of the Bible (which always gave me stomach aches because deep down I believed God’s Word, the authority of His Word was to be life, to be like honey to my lips, and was to be like a refreshing washing of my mind and heart), I have pretty much refused to get caught up in debating my beliefs.  Some think this is stupidity, and maybe it is, but when the will to win an argument rises up in me (and I won every debate I was ever in Jr High-college – I was a good arguer in my day), then the desire to be like Jesus-transformed into His image, taking on His attitude, wanes.  I become angry and full of striving.  So, I stay in peace.  Or-if some people would rather: stupidity.

But as I read the responses and comments, I began to understand what was different in how I was feeling.  People on both “sides” of the issue told you to figure it out, find your own way, whatever will be will be, it seemed.  But in me, (please hear this for the love it really holds, Amanda), the mom in me rose up (the spiritual mom anointing), that kind of mothering that would take on a black bear to save her child, that would stand between a baby and an intruder and say, You’ll get my child over my dead body.”  That is what I felt.  Everyone else seemed content (and of course it is difficult to tell from blog comments, I don’t mean this as a judgment in any way) to watch you step off a cliff into darkness and death if that was your decision. 

And the mom in me was rebuking an unseen, but very real enemy: YOU –  DON’T –  GET –  THIS –  GIRL!  She is God’s.  His name is written on her heart.  She was paid for with the ultimate price because of her great value to her Father.  She needed a Savior and she got one.  While she was being formed in the womb, God was writing all the days of her life.  He was knitting her together there.  He was delighting in His creation.  He made her to hang out with Him.  He loves it when she comes to Him (He loves her presence).  He has great plans for her, plans that will bless and change other people’s lives.  He has her in training to help women in crisis right now.  She has destiny in God.  And, her life will leave an unending legacy of the glory of God and His power to use her yielded heart to the generations. You don’t get her.

I don’t mean to seem arrogant or haughty in spiritual things, but I just couldn’t get on the blog in the middle of all that confusion and people “fighting over you” and be sure my heart would be heard and not my “Christian label.”  I won’t compete and fight over you or with you, but I will fight FOR you in prayer and bringing your name before Father.  All I knew to do was pray.  And I’m sorry to tell you – I prayed that His LOVE would not let you go.  You said you wanted to be left alone, and I meant no disrespect, but I asked God to hold on to you with His LOVE. 

None of this felt flip or unimportant to me, please know.  And I would feel sickened if any of what I am saying right now caused you feel like – yeah – this is exactly what turns me off about Christianity.  Please hear my heart, my sweet friend and daughter in the faith.  I have seen in you a tiny glimpse of what God sees and I think you are a threat to the enemy.  I really do.  I think he would love nothing more than to send in confusion and fatigue and distraction because of the influence you have as a voice for your generation.  It is not ok, in my heart, for you to turn aside from the faith and I pray that doubt will go and truth will bring great peace and clarity to you – not some emotional thing, not you giving an intellectual nod because you feel pressured by me or anyone else.  God forbid.  May you truly know that you know that you know. I am speaking this prophetically: Arise and shine, Mandi Kaye, for your Light has come and the glory of the Lord has risen upon you…darkness must go!

Girl, there is probably no one who has been more tormented over the state of the church and the distance between the holiness of God and the self-righteousness of His people more than I have (except perhaps God Himself).  Oh – I have hated the hypocrisy.  I have seen it done wrong in a gazillion different flavors, denominationally speaking.  I was an abused Pentecostal preacher’s daughter.  My dad would pray his head off over the people at church and beat me.  Can you see how from the foundations of my existence I would have cause to run the other way?  But – I needed a Savior and Jesus Christ did it – He saved me – not just from sin, but from certain death and from my self-destructive tendencies.  When I get too far from Him, the enemy tries to cut off my life source, and has almost succeeded at times.

You may find it hard to believe, but I was once where you are.  I once cursed God (BIGtime!) and said, “None of this crap is worth it” (this is the cleaned up version).  I was the mother of 5 and a pastor’s wife to boot.  It all seemed so senseless.  Non-Christians seemed way happier because they had no rules and prospered anyway.  But the love of God would not let me go.  I cannot explain how I heard it or knew God was speaking, I just knew He was telling me “My love will not let you go.”  And it didn’t seem overbearing or limiting.  It felt protective and surrounding/energizing. 

A short time later I read and understood Asaph’s Psalm 73:  All I could see were the ungodly who were always at ease and increasing in riches.  It was all too painful for me, until I got into Your presence…My heart had been grieved and my mind had been confused.  I was foolish and arrogant.  I was like a brute beast before You…but…whom have I in heaven but You?  There is nothing on earth I desire more than You.  My heart and my flesh may fail, but God is the strength of my heart and my potion forever…”

There is a lot wrong with Christianity.  I once felt it was my place to point it all out.  I was ready to attack with a blog a couple of weeks ago on a topic that makes my blood boil (see my striving nature???) and the Lord told me, “Much of what you see and are alarmed by is good insight, but your motivation right now is so wrong.  Right now – this is between you and me.”  God tells the secrets of His heart to those who fear Him.  I can’t point a finger when my motivations have no love.  It starts in me.  O, Lord, strike down pride in me…

In light of a lot of healing I have been going through concerning my past and an upcoming family reunion (God restores and heals, but every family meeting causes trepidation so that I don’t go back into bondage and fear and anguish) I read this: “Don’t remove the ancient landmark which your fathers have set.” Pr. 22.28 NKJV.  The Message says it like this: “Don’t stealthily move back the boundary lines staked out long ago by your ancestors.”   Digging through word meanings seems to indicate that we are possible talking behavioral boundaries as well as geographical.  I happened across this verse the same day I was reading in Joshua about the people crossing the Jordan .  The Lord told Joshua to instruct the leaders to take 12 stones (one for each tribe) and to build a memorial with them that night where they lodged.  He said those stones were to be a sign among them – “when your children ask in times to come, ‘what do these stones mean?’ tell them” what God did.  This is a memorial, a sign.  It really hit me between the eyes because God isn’t asking every generation to tear down everything done before, He is asking us to build on what our fathers did (the right stuff they did – that pleased the Lord).  We can always throw out the godless parts and the unholy, He is glad for that purification, but we must be ever-so-careful with His bride, not to try to destroy her.  He loves His people – even the weird ones!

Being a Christian isn’t a set of good, moral guidelines. It’s death to ourselves to be like Jesus.  He only asked that we give up everything to follow Him.  Anything less makes us sick with dissatisfaction.  Maybe you are just crying out to be who you were created to be, really be.  Please know I surround you with my love in that.  Please know that you got this e-mail because knowing your struggle has been keeping me up at night.  My mother’s heart has held you fully these past couple of days, though I didn’t know if I had a right. I hope this has not been presumptuous and pain-causing, or seemed so.  I have absolutely no condemnation in my heart toward you, but rather it is full of great regard and tenderness.  Ups and downs, good times and bad – His love has never let me go.  And I continue to pray that it won’t let you go, either.

My heart is pounding as I approach the send button, from one hopefully-recovering-people-pleaser to another with great love,

I’m turning comments off on this one because I couldn’t bear to see her words used in a debate between the two “sides.” I just wanted to share something that deeply touched me today.

Christian is a great noun and a poor adjective.

From Velvet Elvis:

It is dangerous to label things “Christian”. The word Christian first appears in the Bible as a noun. The first followers of Jesus were called Christians because they had devoted themselves to living the way of the Messiah, who they believed was Jesus.

Noun. A person. A person who follows Jesus. A person living in tune with ultimate reality, God. A way of life centered around a person who lives.

The problem with turning the noun into an adjective and then tacking it onto words is that it can create categories that limit the truth. Here’s what I mean:

Something can be labeled “Christian” and not be true or good. I was speaking at a pastors’ conference several years ago, and a well-known pastor was going to be speaking after me. I thought I’d stick around when I was done because I wanted to hear what he had to say. It was shocking. He essentially told the roomful of pastors that if their churches weren’t gorwing and they weren’t happy all the time and they weren’t healthy and successful, then they probably weren’t “called and chosen by God” to be pastors. I can’t imagine the messages his talk put in the hearts and minds of those pastors who were listening. I couldn’t begin to understand how he made those verses mean that. And it was a Christian pastor talking in a Christian church to other Christian pastors. But it wasn’t true.

This happens in all sorts of areas. It is possible for music to be labeled Christian and be terrible music. It could lack creativity and inspiration. The lyrics could be recycled cliches. That “Christian” band could actually be giving Jesus a bad name because they aren’t a great band. It is possible for a movie to be a “Christian” movie and to be a terrible movie. It may actually desecrate the art form in its quality and storytelling and craft. Just because it is a Christian book by a Christiany author and it was purchased in a Christian bookstore doesn’t mean it is all true or good or beautiful. A Christian political group puts me in an awkward position: What if I disagree with them? Am I less of a Christian? What if I am convinced the “Christian” thing to do is to vote the exact opposite?

Christian is a great noun and a poor adjective.

Fit Light Yogurt

Have you heard about the new ad campaign in Brazil for Fit Light Yogurt? It uses overweight women in classic cinematic poses and carries the tag line, “Forget about it. Men’s preferences will never change. Fit Light Yogurt.”

Maybe I’m crazy, but I think she’s beautiful! I’ll admit, the other two aren’t nearly as attractive, but still…

Regardless of their size, these women are beautiful! I may be overweight, but I’m still beautiful – and there are men out there who think I’m beautiful, too. We live in a world where women are constantly bombarded with images of “beauty” that tell us that we must be so thin our bones are showing but also have breast enhancements. These ads perpetuate that. These ads tell women that men will never be attracted to a woman with curves and extra weight. These ads are wrong.

Click here to watch a “fat girl” talk about how proud she is of who she is.

The Gathering Place

Does anybody know how to translate “The Gathering Place” into Hebrew, Greek, and/or Latin?