Update: I wrote this post last night when I was exhausted. Looking back over it this morning I realize that it isn’t as coherent and cohesive as it seemed to be last night. Following is my rewrite.
Where do you draw the line between pride, humility, and truth? Bizarre question, I know. I’ve been struggling with this for awhile. My beliefs and even my personality have really done a 180 in the last year or so. It started a few years ago, but the change really happened this past year. I’ve gone from uber conservative to more moderate. I’m less shy. I stand up for what I believe in, even though it goes against the status quo. If you’re not familiar with me and my blog, you can find most of what I’m talking about here and here.
And I’ve gotten a lot of praise for it from unlikely sources.
And I guess that’s where my problem is coming from. It’s really odd when a Christian gets praise from a bunch of atheists and people who normally completely bash Christianity.
And I’ve gotten some flak from Christians for the changes. Many seem to think that I’m compromising my convictions or trying too hard to stand on middle ground.
But then again, there are more and more Christians out there who are beginning to stand up, as I am. I am convinced that I have done nothing wrong and that the changes that have happened have actually brought me closer to God. I’m one step closer to being more Christlike (again, pride?).
I’m reminded of something Shane Claiborne said in The Irresistible Revolution:
I got many letters from non-Christians who were fascinated by the gospel I preached and the God I’ve grown to love, and I got many letters from religious folks and church elders who were upset that I would talk with such heathens. We must have done something right.
So have I done something right?
I think that because of the baggage I still carry from my more fundamentalist days, I’m struggling with this. Sometimes I feel like I must be wrong if those people are supporting me and the change that has occured. But then I reprimand myself and realize that it’s those people who are the very people Jesus would be hanging out with. He wouldn’t be warming a pew in a church somewhere. And it’s this new group of people (I grew up in a Christian bubble) that has opened my eyes to a different God than the God I was exposed to when I was younger (How’s that for irony? I learned about the God of love from the people who don’t believe in Him!)
So then I get excited that I’ve made a dent in the stereotypes surrounding Christianity. But then that also seems like pride. But if I shake off the praise that I’ve gotten then it seems like false humility. And that’s where my question comes in. Where do you draw the line between pride, humility, and truth?
A commenter noted that I’m talking about two different ideas when I speak of an atheist agreeing with me and hanging out with an atheist. I wasn’t intending to imply that the two are related…although, if you think about it from a church perspective, they are. I was always taught growing up that I should not be friends with people who aren’t Christians. I can witness to them, I can bring them to church, I can minister to them…but God help me if I became their friend. The underlying thought process to that, I think, is that they’re wrong so you shouldn’t spend time with them. If you do, they’ll corrupt you.
That’s the mindset that I’m trying to change. It’s wrong. It’s so unChristlike that for Christians to think like that is, in a way, taking the name of Christ in vain.
And just to clarify: those who are nonbelievers have not “agreed” with me on things relating to God, faith, or Jesus. What they have agreed with me on is how the actions and mindsets of many mainstream Christians needs to change..especially if their intent is to be Christlike.







Not praise or flak; just a comment on this thought:
“Sometimes I feel like I must be wrong if those people agree with me. But then I reprimand myself and realize that it’s those people who are the very people Jesus would be hanging out with.”
There are two different concepts going on there. One is “agree with me” and the other is “hanging out with”. Certainly Jesus didn’t agree with the sinners He hung out with. Nor did the sinners with whom He spent time agree with Him. When they did, they stopped being sinners. (I know, I know … oversimplification … but you get the idea.)
On one hand you’re quite correct. It’s incorrect when folks say, “I must be wrong if those people agree with me.” That doesn’t address the truth or falseness of the question at hand. It could be that even those people are right once in awhile. We need to evaluate the truth claim of the moment, not who does or does not believe it.
On the other hand, we are expected to be “in the world but not of it.” That means we will be “hanging out” with folks with whom we don’t agree and who don’t agree with us. Their agreement or disagreement with us doesn’t affect what is or isn’t true.
When I was growing up, I really struggled with false humility and also with low self-esteem. It didn’t get better until I realized that “self-esteem” is totally the wrong way to see it. We should be after “Christ-esteem.” Our worth isn’t in ourselves, but in the fact that Christ desires to use us for His glory and become intimate with us.
You are not proud if you admit that Christ is using you in remarkable ways – and He is. He is using you, through this blog for instance, to change people’s minds. Be joyful that He’s using you, be humble because you know you couldn’t have done it without Him, and be truthful that all the credit, glory, and honor go to Him.
For what it’s worth, I think you’re a remarkable person.
So much for:
2Co 6:14 -
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
One way of looking at this might be to imagine being in the crowd when Jesus denounced the Pharisees and teachers of the law in Matthew 23. I’m sure there were many who were thrilled to hear someone say, with authority, what they had felt for years. There were probably more than a few doing some fist-pumping or its equivalent.
That doesn’t mean that Jesus was playing to the crowds or just saying what he thought they wanted to hear. And it doesn’t mean that everyone who disliked the Pharisees was automatically disposed to love true holiness and want to follow Jesus himself.
Jesus said he could only do what he sees his Father doing (Jn. 5:19). IMO, this is all we can do, and the reactions are not something we can completely control, nor should we be concerned about trying to.
Dave Taylor,
I am not sure you made your point. Please clarify.